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Sat, 04 Dec 2021 12:26:20 -0800 from ActivityPub

@strypey
It seems to me that what would make a huge difference would be if someone like @PINE64 would sell a reasonably priced router with enough power and storage to be a basic family server with @yunohost pre-installed. Just plug it in, set your ISP modem to pass through and you have a working server. It could automatically open the right ports, use the new auto dns setup. Referral fees from in device domain purchases through a privacy friendly registrar could help fund.

Easy is a must here.

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Mon, 06 Dec 2021 02:33:51 -0800

@Blort
Even with plug&play server combined with router, one have to buy and configure domain, dns etc. There is no way to use selfhosting without ANY knowledge.
@strypey @freedomboxfndn @PINE64 @yunohost

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Tue, 07 Dec 2021 09:26:32 -0800

@miklo
The more difficult part is that everyone has a different modem with different interfaces for enabling pass through. That's just a single on/off setting though, that people's ISP support could walk them through.

Perfect zero knowledge needed may not be possible, but that doesn't mean we can't make something great that only needs a tiny fraction of the knowledge needed now. #Yunohost already did it once. We can take it even further.

@strypey @freedomboxfndn @PINE64 @yunohost

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Tue, 07 Dec 2021 14:43:10 -0800 from ActivityPub

@Blort @miklo @strypey @freedomboxfndn @PINE64 Theoretically we also do support plugging a VPN from the FFDN folks (through the .cube format and also now .ovpn). This allows to entirely bypass commercial ISP restrictions and have proper internet connectivity and exposure for your server, no need to configure the router. The drawback though is that you have to subscribe and pay a fee to a VPN offer (though not just any random VPN, gotta be a dedicated IP etc)